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I was so focused on how upset Shane is going to be being lied to about Gavin and Zoey having a relationship and also being lied to about Dutch and Wanda having a relationship, that I didn’t think of how upset Gavin is going to be about Dutch essentially breaking up Wanda and Clarissa’s relationship. I know that Clarissa and Wanda’s relationship was doomed anyway, but this is still awful and unfair of Gavin to have to deal with. Especially since Wanda has been lying to Gavin about it too. Man, when all the lies and secrets eventually collide, it’s… Read more »
dude, maybe i’m just super autistic but i cant imagine why shane would take either of those secret relationships alll that hard yea his father making time with a married woman might be a major freaking shock . but discovering his two best buds are dating I would be like “meh, i dunno why you felt like keeping a secret, i guess it just made it more exciting for you or something. anyway I’m going to go do my own thing let me know when date night is over so we can hang out. all ya had to do was… Read more »
Agreed. I don’t see why Shane should be upset about Gavin and Zoey being a relationship. They’re not really lying to him about it because he never asked if they were together and they’re under no obligation to tell him unless they want to, which I’m sure they will when the time is right. Same with Dutch and Wanda – when they’re ready to tell Shane and Gavin that they want to take the next step in their relationship, they’ll do it. They don’t need to tell Shane and Gavin that they’ve been together for months, only that they want… Read more »
“I don’t see why Shane should be upset about Gavin and Zoey being a relationship.” I didn’t say Shane would be upset about Gavin and Zoey being in a relationship. He probably would been fine with it, if they had been honest about it with him and not kept him in the dark about it. Especially since it seems like Shane doesn’t feel like the gang (Natalie, Shane, Gavin and Zoey) hangs out together like they used to (“like the old days” as Shane referred to on page 444). That and finding out about his and Gavin’s Dad probably would… Read more »
oh pishposh friends come and go they drift away and sometimes they drift back. if they wanna keep some personal stuff to themselves then just chill and dont force it. its like dealing with a cat really.
“seriously zoey and gavin dating should not be a huge deal to the guy. come on.” It probably would not have been if they hadn’t been lying to him and been honest with him. I do recall that he was supportive of Zoey dating guys if she wanted to during the part of the comic where they were investigating the forest for ghosts. So if they had just told Shane, he would have been fine with it, but his friends lied to him instead. So that, plus Shane seems to be feeling left out, insisting that gang (Natalie, Shane, Gavin… Read more »
if i were shane i woulda been upset but not surprised but then i remembered all the kids growing up who were wrecks during the parents divorce and internally i was like ‘ oh yeah i guess divorce does mess with kids his age’ but from my perspective i just dont get why he won’t be chill about it, but then those kids i saw when i was growing up were upset so i guess thats a thing that happens so i decided to let that one slide
Gavin:” You with Natalie, and me with Zoey can join our dads at the empty cinema and us guys can get a BLOW JOB !”
Secret date nights, dinner and movies? Sound familiar, Gavin?
Yeah, you better tell Shane about your relationship with Zoey as soon as possible…
Gavin is not as oblivious as he was before. God I like the nee Gavin so much he is so hot.
BTW that pfp of yours gave me a slight spoiler of previous page since I stopped at 436 to wait it out few more days for multiple comic pages to read in one day for satisfaction. I should’ve avoided the comments section but oh well its cool.
new Gavin*
Oh um, sorry. Maybe I should have considered that and waited for a few days before changing my profile pic.
All good. Zoey would end up kissing with Gavin in the public anyway I’m so happy for them.
yes gavin and zoey get together….. it must have been quite the shock. 😛 (am joking)
WOW! Gavin is naive. Did he really think that his dad (Wanda) couldn’t help stave off her womanly instincts the same way that Zoey can’t with hers? Both former men have fully embraced their real inner-women. IMHO,I really think that this is the message that Sam may be trying to point out – acceptance of someone who is transgender. Personally, I think that it’s a beautiful thing, not to mention a noble cause by Sam if this is true.
“I really think that this is the message that Sam may be trying to point out – acceptance of someone who is transgender.” Before I say anything, I respect your opinion, but I disagree about this. I don’t think this is the message Sam is trying to point out. I don’t think there is any message going on here. Zoey and Wanda are not transgender. When they were Zack and Wade, they were fine and content being men. They were never interested in being women at all. They only became women because of the virus, not because they wanted to… Read more »
For the record, I am not upset in any manner whatsoever. I am not transgender, but am an ally. If at all, I would like to thank you for that very informative explanation and diagnosis. IMHO, this presents an unusual and unique circumstance whereby, if (perhaps) something like this were to happen in real life today, what sort of impact would this have on society?
Gavin probably never associated his father with fighting off any womanly instincts despite being infected, because most people don’t like to think about their parents having sex. He’s only thinking about it now that he’s gained so much more perspective on women and the infected now that he’s dating Zoey. That’s not really naivety, just adverting your thoughts from your parents even thinking about sex.
This could get out of hand very quickly
I don’t see how. It comes down to acceptance – and happiness. If Gavin were mature enough (which I think he is), he’d accept that his dad (now mom) is trying to being happy by having this relationship, whereby his previous one failed. If I were Gavin, I would be happy that his mom has found someone accepting of her (ahem) ‘circumstances’; can’t they all have a ‘happy ending’?
I’m sorry, but no. I definitely do not agree with this. Yes, Wanda should be with someone who makes her happy and accepts her for who she is. But she has not discussed this with Clarissa, Chase or Gavin. She has been lying to them, going behind their backs and fooling around with Dutch. Wanda has clearly not been happy with Clarissa. If Wanda wasn’t happy with their relationship, then she should have discussed her feelings with Clarissa and either try to save their marriage or just mutually agree to end it and save themselves the drama. Speaking of drama,… Read more »
Zoey and Natalie are going to comfort Gavin and Shane by embracing and kissing after their parents’ scandal is exposed
Whelp I wonder how they’re really gonna feel when they find out their dads are having an affair
Gavin is connecting the pieces of their affair
Wouldn’t it be a surprise if Gavin’s dad (er…mom) knows about Gavin and Zoey? Not THAT would blow your mind.
Wanda knows about it already. Gavin comments during the first date that Wanda gave him *that* talk before he went to pick up Zoey at her house (page 431).